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[edit] NYC is not UNIQUE for 24-hour transit system
Both the Chicago Red and Blue lines of the L run 24 hours. That makes NYC's mass transit system not "unique" for the availability of 24-hour mass transit. My change reflecting this was reverted without reason. Please discuss.--Loodog (talk) 21:22, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- I don't approve of the new sentence either. "New York is notable among American cities, along with Chicago, for its high use and 24-hour availability of mass transit, and for the overall density and diversity of its population. "
- Chicago doesn't have anywhere near the transit ridership of NYC, and now it looks like density and diversity are being applied to Chicago as well. How about "New York is unique among American cities for its high use and 24-hour availability[footnote mentioning Chicago] of mass transit, and for the overall density and diversity of its population."--Loodog (talk) 20:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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- With a little time and thought, you could probably fish around your own vocabulary, or if necessary a thesaurus, to find a word that expresses the intended sense better than "unique" ("remarkable"?) —— Shakescene (talk) 05:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- For example something like (I'm not working here, just throwing stuff off the top of my head and imperfect memory): "Among the characteristics that so strongly distinguish [or mark off] New York from other U.S. cities are..." —— Shakescene (talk) 05:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
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The current sentence sounds as if 100% of the mass transit system is open 24 hours a day. This is obviously not true. Many New York City Bus routes don't operate 24/7. However, the New York City Subway system does run 24 hours a day, save for a portion of the BMT Nassau Street Line (the only exception I know currently), as well as PATH, Staten Island Ferry and Staten Island Railway. The 24-hour availability of mass transit is applicable to most of the city within a walking distance of such routes, but not to major portions of Queens, the Bronx and Staten Island. A safer sentence, perhaps, should suggest that (most of) the subway, etc. runs 24/7. I am not suggesting a particular phrasing; but I hope I can shed some light here. Tinlinkin (talk) 18:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- A valid point. How about "New York is notable among American cities for its high use of mass transit, much of which runs 24 hours..."?--Loodog (talk) 04:25, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Sister Cities' importance
Why Sister Cities have the same level of importance that history or geography.? Alakasam (talk) 12:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Probably because they don't seem to fit well into any other section. Sister Cities is a common standard feature in Wikipedia's city articles. —— Shakescene (talk) 16:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
It may be misleading to say that all of them are the largest cities in their respective country except for Beijing because that might not include the entire metropolitan area. For example, the Tel Aviv metro area is 3 times the size of the Jerusalem metro area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.211.120 (talk) 05:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Very good point. However, the sister city relationship is usually between New York City and an equivalent municipality or authority abroad, rather than between the New York Metropolitan Area and a demographic equivalent. In general, the equivalent body is the central city, rather than a surrounding region that often bears the same name (which is why I deleted that column from this table, e.g. Madrid and Comunidad de Madrid). The exception seems to be London, where the NYC page on sister cities seems to refer equally to the historic square-mile City of London, headed by the ceremonial Lord Mayor of London, and to the Greater London Authority, whose mayors have been Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson. I'll see if there's a concise way of making the population comparison clearer. —— Shakescene (talk) 20:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
[edit] New York- birthplace of punk?
Birthplace of Punk? Surely claiming in the opening few parahraphs, that New York is the birth place of Punk is incorrect? It is generally, if not universally acknowledged, that London is the origin of this movement. Wikipedia article on Punk also supports this claim.
(New York is the birthplace of many cultural movements, including the Harlem Renaissance in literature and visual art, abstract expressionism (also known as the New York School) in painting, and hip hop,[14] punk,[15] salsa, disco and Tin Pan Alley in music. It is the home of Broadway theater.)
Should this paragraph be amended?
92.11.167.149 (talk) 12:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)tf
Why are The Ramones not mentioned? The Ramones lived in Forest Hills in Queens and the band originated in Forest Hills. Same for Simon and Garfunkel, they lived in Kew Gardens in Queens and attended Forest Hills High School (the Ramones attended Forest Hills High School as well). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilytaz (talk • contribs) 17:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Sections
What if each section of this article was split into a subpage of New York City and transcluded onto New York City, to reduce page size? mynameinc (t|c|p) 19:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Top 25 Fortune 500 Companies section needs updating
Today is the first time I've read through the page and I noticed that the Top 25 companies in New York still includes a bunch of financial firms that have collapsed in the last 12 months....is there 2008 data that can be used to update the listing?
Pilot 2023 (talk) 17:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, there are and I've already started collecting and formatting the data, but haven't got around to deciding and posting a final form. One consideration is exactly what you mentioned: what exactly were the effects of the financial crash on all those financial firms in Manhattan? One surprising answer is that AIG was still in the top 30 (but not the top 25) in March 2009 when Fortune composed this year's list. My difficulty is deciding how much of that to include without overloading the table with too many footnotes and too much information (relative to the balance, format and already huge size of the entire article). To see where I am now, see User:Shakescene/sandbox5. For example, should I lengthen the list to 30? Do I add a column to compare years? Would this bloat the table and thus destroy the deliberate spareness and simplicity of my design for this page (as compared to the more complete one at Economy of New York City? Your views, and those of any other readers or editors are of course welcome and useful. And, of course, you also have the right, as does any editor, to update the list on his or her own if you wish. —— Shakescene (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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- Based on your working copy I don't think it would be that bad to expand the list to 30 and have the ranking comparison between 2008 and 2007. Considering the precipitous fall of some companies, I think having both years would add value to the list - not everyone may have the interest to read through the whole economy article. As for the effects of the crash I imagine they have been well-documented in other articles; if there are data sources for specific effects on the city, go for it. -- Pilot 2023 (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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- After playing with a couple of alternatives, such as including Global 500 ranks (see User:Shakescene/sandbox5, I decided to use the simplest update format for the top 25 companies without comparisons to the Global 500 or to previous years. I still have to decide how much information to put into an updated table at Economy of New York City. —— Shakescene (talk) 11:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Crime statistics incorrect
The Crime section currently states that in 2007 NYC recorded 801 murders. In fact, in 2007, NYC recorded only 496 murders (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City). The 801 statistic was for New York State as a whole, not NYC.
Thanks, Greg
Greggyd224 (talk) 13:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
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